A drum with your number would be 1964. First of all, that is rude. Gary - Sounds like a plan. From the pictures posted, they appear to be speckled gray. Not easy to date those drums as the serials tend to be all over the place.
The 114xxx is clearly a 1983 number. My guess is that was a Ludwig metal label that fell off long ago. Anyone know when the 16xxx may have been? It seems unlikely that either of these would have been the case, and certainly we might expect that production was declining towards the end. I have a dated Superten 1-26-83, number 101528, that was built for Gina Schock of the Go-Gos, it has green felts. The Vintage Drum Guide is devoted to The History of. Cleveland drums interiors are finished in a flat gray lead based paint as are also some of the earlier Dayton drums. For chrissakes I hope you didn't let Roger go too far on the first date!!! Those sizes look like they'll be a blast! I think it is possible with the 6K members here.
I've never tried to contact his wife, feeling it was inappropriate in the midst of her loss. And, Spotlight was also the name of a layout which used Spotlight drums, confusing matters more. In the 60's Insurance companies made it mandatory that serial numbers be put on items so they can be documented. I have this 14x5 beauty in my possession but i'm a little intrigued by it. The bass drum has a grainy finish on the inside of the drum, like a beige granite-like finish. How to Date Ludwig Drums - Ludwig Serial Number Chart 1.
Londoner, to a serial number. In 79, Rogers also began producing some lacquered finishes. There are sections on the history of Rogers Drums, and catalog pages on as well as. Each of the different model drums were used in various set configurations. I am leaning toward it being made in the late 60's.
I do not presume to be an expert, which is why I didn't add anything to the revision notes in the header. I also have a dyna Sonic Custom Built snare -- serial number 29355 -- It measures, with the heads on, 6 by 14. I know nothing about that side. Glad you dig the gathered info on the early years. Third, it takes time to answer each request. Again, useful books, but not to be taken as Gospel as far as dating. For those who have an in-depth knowledge of all this, the chart is of some use.
Here's ye olde Ludwig serial number charts: From what everyone has told me, it seems that Ludwig's own records are often hit-and-miss, so you can't always trust the charts. . They were printed on rolls of labels which were mixed up and used in different places at the plant. If the drum or drum kit is believed to be older, please send Yamaha Customer Support a note and we will be happy to assist you further. Catalog Scans Catalog Pages Photos and Years of Rogers Badges Setting Up a Rogers Dynasonic Professional Drummer TommyP Rogers Brochure Photos of Rogers snare drums Photos of Rogers Dynasonic Snare Drums Scans of Rogers Catalogs Work in Progress.
These catalogs although re-printed in some cases from year to year with limited changes do provide a timeline of when finishes were added and when hardware was used and or changed on drums. Steve Maxwell is a very respected builder, collector, and dealer of vintage and modern drums, by myself included. From what everyone has told me, it seems that Ludwig's own records are often hit-and-miss, so you can't always trust the charts. One way to authenticate vintage snare drums is via serial number. Welcome to The Rogers Drum Experts! It is likely that Ajax had no interest in these serial numbers. The problem was that the stamp was created with an ink that easily wiped off during routine cleanings! It would have pics for reference ect. This is especially the case when import drums started flooding the market with a lower priced alternative set of drums.
The Rogers drum badge and Rogers finish pages are also very helpful when dating Rogers Drums. Those sizes look like they'll be a blast! Other Holiday drums built on the same day, in the same hour, would have serials in the same sequence, but these may have gone into a Constellation outfit instead. Actually, these are Word docs listing by serial number. Later Dayton drums, as well as all Rogers produced to 1979, use the Zolocoat splatter paint on the interior. In order to use the number to date the drums this would require a few numbers for which the date of manufacture was known for certain, and these are shown below.
Mardi Gras, the color, is a prime example. That was a number of years ago and I don't know if she still has the same address, etc. The shells are 5-ply construction of maple wood, with 5-ply reinforcement rings. Said the solid hex shaped Memori-loc tom legs were indicative of pre-'75 Rogers Kits. A list of names for contgributors will have to be noted as well. With that said many drum companies never even used serial numbers early on.
Thank you for that effort. The best way to do it is from some construction details. Also, if you can, try to research your snare some more, there could be much more info, and I know certain Dynasonics can be highly collectible, I just haven't found much information on them myself. Rob issued a second edition of the Rogers Book where a lot of information was updated and added. Fortunately drum companies since the 40's were good at printing catalogs. Big R drums were produced from mid 79-85 as an all maple 8 ply shell, with memrilock hardware.